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Deletion

I am leaning oppose on the deletion. While this page should be deleted due to it being a prominent case of Anti-Semitism, many pages in Robloxiapedia have included his name and in some cases have direct links to the page, and also Robloxiapedia is using it as an educational and historical context. A deletion of this page would represent a loss on Robloxiapedia's independence and non-censorship, plus it can be construed as denial of fascism, something we have to accept if we ever want to learn how to avoid fascism. As someone notable once said, "those who do not bother to learn history are condemned to repeat it". Therefore, I am fine with this page being deleted, but letting you know that if you do, Robloxiapedia might be more dependent on Fandom and censored, which runs against our beliefs to make Robloxiapedia as much as like Wikipedia as possible (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_censored). Really wish Robloxiapedia could apply to become exempt from Fandom staff deletions (we will state that we are housing the articles with an educational and historical context for our readers as well as helping us construct some intricate lore.). Also, someone might need to go and make sure all the links to the page are removed from Robloxiapedia immediately. Sincerely, Director of Robloxiapedia. Any questions? Contact Director of Robloxiapedia 02:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

  • I oppose its removal. However, I look at it from a different perspective. The article is not anti-Semitic. It merely mentions anti-Semitism, but it does not make it anti-Semitic. The discussion about Islamophobia was similar. I believe that simply mentioning a negative phenomenon affecting a given group does not provide grounds to accuse someone of discrimination against that group. If someone were to say "anti-Semitism exists", they can't be called anti-Semitic simply for saying so. This article mentions anti-Semitism, but its language is not anti-Semitic. The language does not discriminate against Jews; it simply mentions certain events from the 1930s and 1940s. There is no reason to call it anti-Semitic. Therefore, I believe the adult content notice should be changed from "anti-semitism" to "mentioning anti-Semitism". After addressing this issue, I can move on to the next one. Commemorating historical events is very important in many countries, including those negative for the nation. In Poland, the victims of the Katyn massacre, the Volhynia massacre, the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and the Warsaw Uprising are commemorated. None of these ended well, claiming many lives, but they are remembered nonetheless. Remembering these events is a way to commemorate the dead and pay tribute to them. However, removing articles like this one will hinder this. Another issue is censorship. Removing mentions of Nazism would create a taboo subject and a blot on lore. This would be just a censorship. Wikipedia has articles like this. This argument has led, for example, to defenses of the existence of articles containing sexual content. So why do we prefer sexual content over content intended to commemorate the crimes and victims of World War II? Finally, I would like to mention that while nazism may be subject to censorship, one can still write about communism. Communists killed approximately 100,000,000 people in various countries, leading to, for example, the Holodomor, the Great Purge in the USSR, numerous genocides in the USSR, the Great Leap Forward and the Great Famine in China, and the brutal events in Cambodia. The number of nazi victims is usually estimated at around 17,000,000. Therefore, an ideology that killed 100,000,000 people is treated better than one that killed 17,000,000. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to defend nazism. Both nazism and communism, and indeed all totalitarian ideologies, are absolutely evil and deserve condemnation. However, you can't simply take one and censor it, leaving the memories of others. If memories of nazism are to be removed, those of other totalitarian ideologies should also be removed. Or memories of nazism should not be removed, simply to pay tribute to those who died in World War II. Pilsudski said: "A nation that does not know its past is doomed to repeat it". The same quote could be applied to all people. Those who do not know the past are simply forced to repeat it. Therefore, I believe there should be a way to commemorate all the terrible events of the 1930s and 1940s, so that no one forgets what people are capable of and so that they know that nazism is evil. Sincerely, Yellow Puma Plus. Any questions? Contact Yellow Puma Plus 8:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Update

I am now considering to move the article to Sr. Kiwi. Please opine on how effective the move will be in terms of reducing offensiveness, as well as planning on changing the images to less offensive images. Sincerely, Director of Robloxiapedia. Any questions? Contact Director of Robloxiapedia 03:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

well in my opinion

I don't think this page should be moved or netiher deleted; like its only one new user who's 'offended' for some reason by this article. -Smilee1010 (Windows7Fan7601)

Unfortunately

It seems like Fandom prefers to delete articles on sight, meaning that even if one person found it offensive, the entire page gets deleted. I wish they respected negotiation such as not deleting it unless a majority of users find it offensive (they could create polls like us).Sincerely, Director of Robloxiapedia. Any questions? Contact Director of Robloxiapedia 05:55, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

then

why not make a poll about the page deletion/moving or are you offended by this article? type of poll -smilee1010

BUT

I think the romarkia page should be moved as it contains the word 'nazi'


My Stance

I oppose this pages removal, however, I think it should 100% be moved and have a lore rewrite. It should stay as a tribute to the real-world Second World War and the terrors of Facisim, but it needs to be changed so Fandom doesn't murder it lolpo 13:55, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

WE LOST.

Unfortunately, Fandom staff already deleted that article. But I have a plan. If we move our talk to this talk page, we could convince staff it does not need to be deleted. Sincerely, Director of Robloxiapedia. Any questions? Contact Director of Robloxiapedia 18:53, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

About the page

I believe this page shouldn't be deleted. Why? Over time, Roblox on Robloxiapedia has begun to resemble the real world. Correspondences of various cities, countries, and continents were added. A history was added. I believe it's impossible to dodge such topics, because to delete Sr. Kiwi (equivalent of Adolf Hitler) is also to remove a fragment of history. The "lore", history of various countries, and characters are tied to Roblox War II, and therefore indirectly or directly to those who started it. I think we should keep the page and instead add some template saying it is adult content.

- User:Otocolobus Manul, 17:26 29 March 2026 (UTC)

  • A few weeks ago, there was controversy surrounding this article, with various unsubstantiated claims of violations of various rules. However, despite the falsehood of most of these claims, the article does mention topics like genocide and war crimes, even after the revamp. Fandom staff has already informed us of their thoughts on such mentions in the article, and it is not our job to judge whether Fandom staff is right or wrong. I remember there were proposals to revamp this page even further, to make it more acceptable under Fandom staff guidelines. If this page were restored in its current state, it would be possible that it would be removed again, and this would continue. If the page is to be restored, we should ensure it complies with Fandom staff guidelines to avoid misunderstandings. Sincerely, Yellow Puma Plus. Any questions? Contact Yellow Puma Plus 17:34, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
    • I fear that restoring the Sr. Kiwi page in a way that would make Fandom not remove it would be just whitewashing Hitler. What if to avoid such topics as genocide and war crimes, there shouldn't be Roblox War II in the first place? However, there are more pages on the wiki mentioning genocide and war crimes, also based on real events. User:Otocolobus Manul, 17:42 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Page is now protected from creation

This page is now protected from creation due to an attempt to recreate it. Sincerely, Director of Robloxiapedia. Any questions? Contact Director of Robloxiapedia 21:37, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Page is again deleted

Hello. I am writing to let you know that for some reason, this page has been recreated. Sincerely, Director of Robloxiapedia. Any questions? Contact Director of Robloxiapedia 03:44, 7 June 2026 (UTC)